Bender, I think something must be getting lost in translation here. A tailing loop and and a collision loop are two different faults. Tailing loops are caused by the rod tip taking a concave rod path. A collision loop is usually caused by not taking the the line far enough up from your position and then making the forward cast, what you Scandinavians call crossing the line. Are you saying that the concave rod path in the video was the TL or that it would have resulted in a TL because I cannot see any evidence of it ending up a tailing loop? I accept there was a slight concave path but not sufficient to significantly spoil the cast. As an addendum to this post I would add, I have seen this fellow demonstrating a few times at Game fairs and he is is absolutely brilliant. I would put him in the old school of champions where timing was critical. As I have no doubt you will appreciate good timing can pull you out of quite a few scrapes. Incidentally the amount of creep involved was minimal, again not enough to influence the cast .You must be a brave man to critise a former world speycasting champion with his background and standing. I have seen it so often in this game where it is all to easy to get bogged down with technicality. I get confused easily nowadays but I have always believed in the KISS Method of learning i.e. KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.