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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 12-25-2016, 06:05 AM Thread Starter
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Skagit Cast Killers?

I wrote about my Skagit experience here But if you dont want to read it and would just rather watch the video then here ya go and Merry Christmas!
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Here is a little clip of my trying to single spey this outfit. Its not very fun. Or pretty. Cheers!

... the pseudo-science of running-lines and matching heads has now devolved into such a miasma of obfuscation that it is a wonder that people are even not more confused....Erik Helm

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Very good casting and quality video!

I think it is something else than sinking tip digging too deep if you did not feel it in the Triple Spey starting at 1:10 where the anchor time is very long. Yes you are right the rod stiffness does not be enough for such long and powerful casts and heavy line and when there is slight Creep as well. You have very good line control and lifting technicue which result precise anchors landings

When Drifting it is equally important to lower the rod tip while it is moved back. This has three functions: What I always write "making forward casting stroke longer" but "lower rod tip when cast is began" also reduce Tailing Loop and what is not wrote enough it makes possible to effectively "launch line higher". Yes no need to remind for these casts higher trajectory would have not made much longer because line loops did straighten to the air but one more trick "releasing line earlier" to slow down line loop running speed do produce longer casts when also rod is stiff enough because higher cast needs more force.

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What set up?

SkagitMiester, what rod and line/tip are you using in the video?
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Very good casting and quality video!

I think it is something else than sinking tip digging too deep if you did not feel it in the Triple Spey starting at 1:10 where the anchor time is very long. Yes you are right the rod stiffness does not be enough for such long and powerful casts and heavy line and when there is slight Creep as well. You have very good line control and lifting technicue which result precise anchors landings

When Drifting it is equally important to lower the rod tip while it is moved back. This has three functions: What I always write "making forward casting stroke longer" but "lower rod tip when cast is began" also reduce Tailing Loop and what is not wrote enough it makes possible to effectively "launch line higher". Yes no need to remind for these casts higher trajectory would have not made much longer because line loops did straighten to the air but one more trick "releasing line earlier" to slow down line loop running speed do produce longer casts when also rod is stiff enough because higher cast needs more force.

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Excellent observations Esa. I'm glad you watched this with a critical eye. I agree on the slight creep issue and reasons for proper drift. I always like hearing what you have to say. Good stuff. Thanks for taking the time. I'll read this post over and glean more.
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SkagitMiester, what rod and line/tip are you using in the video?
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Its a chopped old school Rio beer can Skagit of 570 grains at about 19' with 10' of t14 and a weighted fly. There is one cast on there after the slow motion cast where I'm using a 325 grain Commando head and t11. The Rio head is too heavy for my liking and the Commando a tad light but they flew decent if I hit the sweet spot.

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Good stuff Skagit mieister. Thanks for posting. I like how you do your mends in the air, on the forward cast. Please keep posting. My casting needs help. Nate
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Skagitmiester,

What, no obvious or lengthy pauses at the conclusions of your sweeps? How on Earth do you expect to execute a successful cast without a well-defined pause?

I suspect that you have cleverly stitched together some video snippets (with the pauses edited out) in order to make them look like complete casts. Why you would want to create such a deception is troubling. Regardless, get to work on pausing, the more the better!

Disclaimer: It should be pretty obvious that the above comments are tongue-in-cheek.
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