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Spey casting and fishing with dry flies

I promised , some time ago, that I'd post a video of how I fish bombers using a two hander.
I finally had some time to sit and manage my videos so here are a few.
Please keep in mind that I am far from being an expert caster. I just do what works for me. I hope that these videos can prove that fishing deadrifted dry flies can be done and that some can take whatever good or bad from it to give a try.
In these 3 vid's, I am fishing river right. I'll try to find some vids of river left scenarios and post them in the future.
Please feel free to comment(good or bad) on technique or if some have any recommendations on how they do it.
Always trying to learn here.
Oh, I also thought it would be fun to post the vids of me actually raising fish, so kep a sharp eye to spot them!
thanks for looking.



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That is a dandy tailout your fishing! Makes my mouth water!
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So cool, John, thanks for that! What leader set-up are you using there?
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Gary, that particular setup was a 15 foot mono leader. A 9 foot tapered mono leader knotted to 6 feet of 8lbs maxima. I'll sometimes use a 2:1 ratio ( 10' of 12lbs knotted to 5 ' of 8lbs ) of maxima leader material, depending on conditions.
A tapered leader just rolls out easier.
In low water and if salmon are spooky, I'll go with the 2:1 maxima setup and as long as I can handle, depending on fly size, and will sometimes use a flouro tippet. Don't know if it makes a difference, but I like to think it does. The level leader has less of a splash down then the tapered leader does. Again, don't know if it matters...
It's the way I like to do it.
On single handers, I'll use level leaders of as long as I can handle.
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Looking good hitcher.. your modest with casting skills.

Curious what the rod line combo was?

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The rod is a 16' 6/8 Meiser C.
Line is a 62' 8/9 snowbee 2d

Here's another bad video. This time with a 7wt 13'6" Sage brownie and a 6/7 Airflo Delta.

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Nice videos thanks for sharing them.
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Thanks for posting the vids. Good time to bring that thread back as I'm in the middle of deciding what rods to build this winter.
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Nice easy cast hitch

What's your camera set up?

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It's a regular gopro on a baseball cap clip mount.

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Gary, that particular setup was a 15 foot mono leader. A 9 foot tapered mono leader knotted to 6 feet of 8lbs maxima. I'll sometimes use a 2:1 ratio ( 10' of 12lbs knotted to 5 ' of 8lbs ) of maxima leader material, depending on conditions.

John, I'll definitely be giving that set up a shot next season!

Rob Feeney and I were remembering fishing with you a couple weeks ago at an MSA dinner up in Boiestown, NB...good times!
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P.S. "far from being an expert caster"?? yeah, right.
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Awesome times! I hope to get back there soon!
Maybe we can all hook up.!
Oh....
And those were only the decent casts I showed in the video. Lol. I edited out the poor ones!

About dry fly fishing,
Lots can be done with a 2 hander, but there are a few things to keep in mind.

First is line management.
When casting upstream, stripping in the slack is necessary if you want to be tight on a strike should a fish take. The upstream video is a poor example of it. I just got lazy. The problem with upstream fishing is that if using a mid or long line , some or most of the head will be inside the guides making it difficult to cast out again.
A couple of solutions are to overhead or perrypoke the head out before the cast.
Here's an example of it here......


Second thing....
The videos show a pretty easy pool to fish. It's a level water speed throughout. Only thing I was trying to do was put the line in front of the fly with a reach cast . Hardly any mending. This was to ensure I was tight to the fly for not only a strike, should a fish take, but for my initial lift to perform my cast. Way easier if the line doesn't have a big bow in it.
What about different surface speeds of a section of water? This is where the longer lines come in handy. Throwing mends to counter drag is just as fun on a two hander as is when trout fishing with a single hander.

Lastly, and already partly mentioned, is trying to be tight to the fly should a fish take. Every salmon take is different and it's hard to predict when to strike even on a short line using a single hander, but it's even harder on a long cast.
My rule is that I strike when I can't see the fly anymore.
Being tight to the fly on a long line cast will help your chances.

Please feel free to add to the discussion. Curious to know about others experiences.
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