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Figuring out "underhand" Technique. This could take some time

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About halfway in Mia talks about casting.
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About halfway in Mia talks about casting.
Great video. Thanks for posting.

... the pseudo-science of running-lines and matching heads has now devolved into such a miasma of obfuscation that it is a wonder that people are even not more confused....Erik Helm

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I feel flattered you used my videos as an example in your blog post I'm not sure my casting is good enough to be used as a reference. The picture you used and single spey cast video are not the best to follow while learning the technique. Reason being I'm wading deep on the clip and that made me lift my arms quite high at the end of the sweep. I also laid my rod further down toward the water surface behind me which is deliberate - the goal was to cast maximum distance with very fast-action rod. Flatter rod position enabled me to lengthen my casting stroke and loading phase at the begging of the forward cast.

Secondly, my technique should rather be referred to as modern Scandinavian spey casting rather than Andersson's underhand casting.

Now about your casting. I see progress Some very tight loops there. But you have tailing loop tendency - partially this is because of very short casting stroke. You have to find balance between casting stroke length and acceleration during the forward cast. You could try higher drift at the end of the sweep (with longer shooting head) or block the rod farther down at the end of the forward cast. Rod action and shooting head length and its profile play the part as well. That's the beauty of spey casting

I think the best instruction to follow is Robert Gillespie's climbing curve clips on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSYn...38A1EC0558338B
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I feel flattered you used my videos as an example in your blog post I'm not sure my casting is good enough to be used as a reference. The picture you used and single spey cast video are not the best to follow while learning the technique. Reason being I'm wading deep on the clip and that made me lift my arms quite high at the end of the sweep. I also laid my rod further down toward the water surface behind me which is deliberate - the goal was to cast maximum distance with very fast-action rod. Flatter rod position enabled me to lengthen my casting stroke and loading phase at the begging of the forward cast.

Secondly, my technique should rather be referred to as modern Scandinavian spey casting rather than Andersson's underhand casting.

Now about your casting. I see progress Some very tight loops there. But you have tailing loop tendency - partially this is because of very short casting stroke. You have to find balance between casting stroke length and acceleration during the forward cast. You could try higher drift at the end of the sweep (with longer shooting head) or block the rod farther down at the end of the forward cast. Rod action and shooting head length and its profile play the part as well. That's the beauty of spey casting

I think the best instruction to follow is Robert Gillespie's climbing curve clips on YouTube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSYn...38A1EC0558338B
Thanks Cloner. In my opinion your cast is immaculate and worthy of emulation. I also posted your video entitled "Double Snake Roll Cast" that I thought was terrific. Thanks for the comments. Plenty for me to think about and practice.

Thanks for the clarification of your casting style as modern Scandinavian Casting. I think I just have underhand on the brain. I can see the Granbo influence in your casting mostly but your style seems a little different than your masters. For one, I dont see you hugging the rod as Henrik Mortensen teaches. When I have the opportunity I will study them a little closer to get a better idea.

Also, I agree with your recommendation of Robert Gillespies videos. I have several blog posts featuring his videos and teachings. here

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