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Old 02-08-2013, 02:16 PM
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What rod for the Clearwater?

I plan to make a trip to the Clearwater river this year to cure my 13yr. itch of not catching steelhead! I just recently found out I could get them only 700 miles from here in Wyoming and since I started to spey cast for very large trout here on the Wind/Big Horn all I could think of is STEELIES soooo here goes!

What rod? I am close to pulling the trigger on a Scott 1509 ARC and I think that would fill the bill but I need some other opinions. Is that too much rod? I plan just to go there and storm the banks in the fall and after all the intensive research I`ve done I think it`ll work. I got an Echo 10107 SR that I could use in the summer if I cant wait (scout trip!) cause it sounds like you fish"in the brush" so an I set with the ARC?
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:22 PM
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I plan to make a trip to the Clearwater river this year to cure my 13yr. itch of not catching steelhead! I just recently found out I could get them only 700 miles from here in Wyoming and since I started to spey cast for very large trout here on the Wind/Big Horn all I could think of is STEELIES soooo here goes!

What rod? I am close to pulling the trigger on a Scott 1509 ARC and I think that would fill the bill but I need some other opinions. Is that too much rod? I plan just to go there and storm the banks in the fall and after all the intensive research I`ve done I think it`ll work. I got an Echo 10107 SR that I could use in the summer if I cant wait (scout trip!) cause it sounds like you fish"in the brush" so an I set with the ARC?
Lots of rods that will fit that bill. My personal choice would be the Burkheimer 8152. If I were you I would call Poppy at the Red Shed, I'm sure he could fill you in on the favorite rods for the area. His shop is about a quarter mile from the Clearwater, so he has the most first hand knowledge.
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Old 02-08-2013, 03:06 PM
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There are all manner of rods used to fish for steelhead on the Clearwater in Idaho. They range from 10'-6wts to 18'-11wts.

With the above being said for the summer/fall fishing here, there are a great many very experienced long time Clearwater anglers that favor 15'-8wt or 9wt rods using a floating line with a head of 55' to 75', and a mono leader as long as the rod or thereabouts.

Do you need a 15 footer to successfully fish here? No, but after fishing here with something smaller you might want one.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:14 PM
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:27 PM
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I've fished there for weeks with a Meiser Highlander 15 foot 7/8/9, a rod that Poppy recommended, and I can't think of anything better. However, you're well equipped now, and 7/8 rods of around 13 feet can cover almost as much water.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:28 PM
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I agree a 15 ft 8 or 9 is the way to go. I hope ya get to scratch your 13 year itch. Just remmeber the Clearwater is one tough lady, sometimes she will give it up with out much effort, other time she will bring you to your knees....
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:38 PM
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Do you need a 15 footer to successfully fish here? No, but after fishing here with something smaller you might want one.
Oh so true. The last time I fished the Clearwater and the Snake was 10 years ago and I did it with a 9'6" 7wt. On that trip I watched many guys fishing two handed rods. It looked so effortless while what I was doing felt so futile. I came back from that trip and vowed I would obtain and learn to cast a double handed rod. Never looked back.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:51 PM
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I agree with Fred. You should contact Poppy at the Red Shed and trust his advice. He will not steer you wrong.

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Old 02-08-2013, 05:51 PM
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I have fished there 3 times ...once with a Sage deathstar 7 wgt....then once with 6 wgt switch and last year with a Sage ONE spey 5 wgt[shortest one]. I would not think of taking anything bigger than the ONE unless I had something new and wanted to dial it in for one segment. I am there at Red Shed Clave time




edit....I should add to this the fact that I am willing to miss some fish with my choices...it does not always mater to me...I like to shoot line...some don't ...I think I often fish too long of a line, and shorter rod holds that back...I maybe also prefer to make things a bit harder...I,E., I hunt with a bow,also!! Last year I spent a lot of days in 35-40 degree pouring down rain looking for one particular rosevelt bull elk in the olympic rain forest....no, I did not get it or see it and already keeping track of movements of three monsters for next yr.

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Old 02-08-2013, 05:54 PM
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I agree with Fred. You should contact Poppy at the Red Shed and trust his advice. He will not steer you wrong.

Doug

+1. Also: http://www.redshedflyshop.com/ACCORDINGPOPPY.html
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Old 02-08-2013, 08:15 PM
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I have fished the river a time or two...

To each their own. Fish what you are best capable of using. There is no ideal rod. Only what is ideal for you. To answer your question...no the ARC 15' is NOT OVERKILL.
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:20 AM
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The particular river you speak about is two different rivers-
The river from july to the third week in september is totally different from the river after this time period. If you don't fish it as such, you will be missing some things that would help in your success . I still feel for me a 14' 8/9 is the best all around rod for all seasons here if you can only have one, but that's just another guys opinion on the web... Anything less than a 7wt is a disservice to a b-run fish, especially early in the season, no matter how skilled a guy thinks he is- I don't believe there are rods too big for here, but there are definitely rods to small for here...
I also gear fish a little when I get bored of swing'n flies, and release some hatchery fish, so you probably shouldn't listen to me anyways
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:33 PM
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There are runs and tailouts on the Clearwater (and nearby Snake) where a 20 ft. rod and a 100 ft. head long belly line would in no way be overkill, and plenty of other spots where a 12 ft. rod and compact Skagit head would be just the ticket. However, that being said, on the Clearwater and Snake (which I fish every fall for weeks at a time) I normally fish rods from 14 ft. to 16 ft., and lines from 8/9 to 11/12. Nothing shorter or lighter. If I had to limit myself to just one rod to fish either or both rivers, it would likely be a 15 ft. 9/10 or 10/11, but then, I like long rods and long lines, and like to fish rivers where they make sense and are useful. The Scott 1509 ARC (assuming you can cast and fish it effectively) would be near perfect, in my opinion.
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Old 02-09-2013, 12:57 PM
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So, I have to ask because I truly don’t understand...What makes the Clearwater more apt to be fished well with a 14+foot rod and traditional lines as opposed to 13footers and scandis? What makes it different than the Deschutes, or Bulkley, or Umpqua(main)? Is it a mending-reach over shelves issue?
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Old 02-09-2013, 01:34 PM
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I have never seen the Bulkley or the Umpqua main but I have seen a good angler with an open mind fish the Deschutes very effectively using an 17' rod lined with an 85' Carron. Yes we had a great guide that also had an open mind and let us fish the way we wanted.

The fact that the "D" isn't routinely fished with long rods and long lines doesn't mean it's not possible.
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