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Old 03-08-2007, 11:56 PM
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Hardy Perfect Line Capacities?

I have not seen many line capacity recomendations for Hardy Perfects. I know there are plenty of you out there with such knowledge & I'm quite sure it would be appreciated by many spey pages members. Although it is not in the realm of spey, it would be nice to see trout sizes also. I am far from a Hardy Perfect expert so if you could clue me in on sizes and capacities etc. I would appreciate it!

Hardy Perfects I know of of the top of my head:

2 7/8"
3 1/8"
3 3/8"
3 5/8"
3 7/8"
4"
????????? Wide drum versions?
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Old 03-09-2007, 07:43 AM
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While no expert either i will quote from and '82 catalog.
3 1/8"
DT-4-F and 40yds.
DT-5-F no backing
WF-5-F and 60yds
WF-6-F and 40yds.

3 3/8"
DT-5-F and 100yds
DT-6-F and 70yds
WF-6-F and 140yds.
DT-7-F and 40yds.
WF-7-F and 120yds.
WF-8-F and 100yds

3 5/8"
DT-7-F and 180yds
WF-7-F and 260yds.
DT-8-F and 150yds.
WF-8-F and 240yds.
DT-9-F and 120yds.
WF-9-F and 220yds.
DT-10-F and 10yds.
WF-10-F and 170yds.

I have a 50's-ish 3 3/4" WD perfect that has about 220yds of 20lb and will easily carry a DT-8/9 Spey line.
my LHW 3 5/8" Perfect is set up exactly as the catalog states with 150yds of 20lb and a DT-8-F lazer line

I have no idea about the 2 7/8" but the 3 7/8 perfect looks similar in size to the St John, which is 3 7/8", so i would think the specs on that reel would be similar. Also the Marquis #1 is 3 7/8" and is comparable to the St John as to what it is rated at in the catalog. Looking further the #9/10 Sunbeam is also comparable at 3 7/8" quite similar in line holding capability.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:05 PM
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I don't believe those numbers at all Salmon Chaser. I don't doubt that you got them from a Hardy catalog but they just don't come close to my experience. There's no way my 3-5/8" Perfect will hold a DT10F line. I have a DT7F on mine and estimate there's about 100 yds of backing on it.

Edit: I found a Hardy leaflet that came with one of my Hardy reels. I havejust copied and pasting your data into this post and highlighted the desrepencies in bold. I've also pointed out the sinking specs where they contradict your data. Here's what Hardy specified on the that leaflet:

3 1/8"
DT-4-F and 40yds.*
DT-5-F no backing (Matches)
WF-5-F and 50yds
WF-6-F and 25yds.

3 3/8"
DT-5-F and 100yds*
DT-6-F and 25yds
WF-6-F and 50yds
DT-7-F and 40yds. (DT-7-S and 50yds)
WF-7-F and 25yds
WF-8-F and 100yds (WF-8-S and 50yds)

3 5/8"
DT-7-F and 75yds
WF-7-F and 80yds.
DT-8-F and 50yds.
WF-8-F and 60yds
DT-9-F and 120yds.*
WF-9-F and 220yds.*
DT-10-F and 10yds.*
WF-10-F and 170yds.*

* No capacity specified for this line

I'm sure these numbers may not be entirely accurate as well. Hardy seems to have spec'd different values at different times.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:53 PM
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Well i just dug out another one from '88 and there is a huge difference This matches almost to the letter what your leaflet states Pescaphile. Here's what they say in 1988.
3 1/8"
DT-4-F 30yds
WF-5-F 50yds

3 3/8"
DT-6-F 25yds
WF-6-F 50yds

3 5/8"
DT-7-F 75yds
WF-7-F 80yds.

I also just checked the reel and its a WF 8 on it,, not a DT
I am going to load a spare spool with a 10wt just to see if it's possible
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Old 03-09-2007, 02:07 PM
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Are you looking for Hardy Perfect wide Salmon, line and backing capabilities for 3 1/2",3 3/4", 4", and 4 1/4"? If so, what type and size of spey line are you using?

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Old 03-11-2007, 12:00 PM
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To simplify Perfect sizing...

Perfects sized in inches followed by x/16" or x/8" are trout reels.
Those marked x/4" or 1/2" - or without any fraction - are salmon reels with wider drums. Yes, you can use the larger trout reels for salmon but they were designed for heavy single-hand rods, not for 2 hand rods.

Chas - previous post - says the same thing but without explaination.

For what its worth I have found that the 41/4" is probably the most useful reel for heavier spey lines, the 4" for typical 9/10 lines and the 3 3/4 for the lighter lines. (The 3 1/2" is really best on a singlehand or "switch"rod). I base this on requiring 200yds or more of 30-lb. Micron as backing.

The back-row reels shown on my Avatar are 4 1/2 through to 3 1/2" excluding my 4 1/4" which a friend has borrowed. the shiney narrow drum 4" is an early Farlows Perfect knock off.
The front row are various Bogdan knockoffs, except for the Hart (marked Orvis) at the far end.

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It's all very well to talk about line capacities of Hardy Perfects if you have figured out a way to get the blooming thing into a modern reel fitting! Would any of you care to admit how you have done it

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It's all very well to talk about line capacities of Hardy Perfects if you have figured out a way to get the blooming thing into a modern reel fitting! Would any of you care to admit how you have done it

Tight lines
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There's a guy here in the states named Bill Archuleta who specializes in vintage reels, I've seen multiple other posts referencing him when acquiring a 'modern' reel foot for older Perfects and such.
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Gettting a new reel foot built is one way to do it. Please do not file the reel foot too make it fit. The other way is getting a rod built to fit the reel. Thats what I did. I know that Bob Clay and Bob Meiser both with adjust their rods so that the old reels will fit, plus they are both sponsers.

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