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Old 07-19-2010, 05:33 PM
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Speyducer , great pictures and story, I normally dont think much of chinooks for looks but that one is georgous ! the picture of the tail says it all for the power in that fish. If you dont mind me asking what fly is that ?

I hope to make it the Dean someday thanks for sharing.
It's a fly donated to me by Dana to get me out of the chinook doldrums ... I know it's NOT the "screaming yellow attack squid", but I don't remember this pattern's name @ present -

will be tying up a few more for the return bout!!
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Old 07-20-2010, 07:07 PM
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It's a fly donated to me by Dana to get me out of the chinook doldrums ... I know it's NOT the "screaming yellow attack squid", but I don't remember this pattern's name @ present -

will be tying up a few more for the return bout!!
The fly is known as the "Moose Ugly" named for a longtime Dean River chinook angler. dblspey can probably give us more background on this fly but it is probably the classic Dean chinook pattern.

Update: 6 of the 8 spots have now been booked for next year. Contact me if you are interested, and watch for my upcoming posts on Deneki's blog.
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Old 07-20-2010, 08:02 PM
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Great story! I have battled a few up there and they are the real deal for sure!

NICE!
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:18 AM
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Moose Ugly

The Moose Ugly is a fly developed by "Moose" aka Lloyd, who is part of a great group of guys that have been fishing for Dean river chinooks for decades. These guys pioneered fly fishing for chinooks there. They all started with gear but eventually, with the re-birth of big spey rods started to see if they could catch them on a fly. They found out they could and now most of them fly fish most of the time. You will find them camped at Ross Island in the last weeks of June and into July. Lloyd, was bestowed with the nickname "Moose" because he hit like one when he played defense in junior hockey. The Moose Ugly is a tube fly that is primarily blue over chartreuse with a bit of flash. The ugly part is a tribute to Peter McVey, (whose black and red McVey Ugly is a great surface steelhead pattern for the upper river).


Moose Ugly, large about 3 inches

I tie them on 1 to 2 inch tubes either plastic or metal in various sizes. Smaller and less flashy for low, clear water.

This is a mini-moose, about 1 1/2 inches. I added Raven quills just for fun.



Here is a fish that bit the mini moose above in fairly clear water. This fish was taken at "Moose's Bucket" on Ross Island, where you will probably find Moose if he is on the river.



The mini moose will also work on steelhead, this one from the cutbank took the same fly.



Here is a Moose Ugly that Moose himself gave me on the last day of my trip this year. He ties them on a tube less than 1 inch long, blue over chartreuse maribou with a tail of chartreuse rabbit. A very nice fly that I will copy, he uses slightly blander colours than I do and these work well in clear water as well.



Another fly you should have in your arsenal is the BSD, which is large, purple and wiggly with a chartreuse laser wrap butt. This fly works very well if the visibility goes down to a couple of feet or less.



Finally, here is another very bright fish taken with a Moose Ugly from Moose's Bucket a few years ago. (I mean literally taken, we get to take a few home with us, they are very good eating). This was an extremely hot fish that heated up the drag disc quite a bit on the medieval setting. These fish are always moving through and are very fresh.

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Old 07-21-2010, 03:21 PM
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Great Post!

Thanks for the great post Parker--I haven't seen the "Mini Moose" before, and I really like the lighter blue on the larger one. I tend to tie them dark blue over lighter blue over chartreuse and that works great in water with a bit of color, but I think the softer color and smaller size would be an advantage when things drop and clear.

No doubt we'll see you up there next July and I'm sure our group will have handfuls of these flies if you start to run low. I didn't get to your place this trip so I'll have to make a point of it in 2011.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:30 PM
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nice fish Brent--weight?
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WOW guys those fish are fantastic! Please post more pics they are great.
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Old 07-23-2010, 12:43 AM
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Hey Parker--what's the recipe for this fly?
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mini moose

I start with a 1 inch plastic tube, for that fly I used the soft stuff. Black thread, start with about 3 inches of chartreuse edge-bright aka laser wrap, cut thin, tie in same length of silver tinsel and wrap tinsel forward, tie off and follow with laser wrap to form bright butt. Tie in a couple of wraps of large chartreuse sparkle chenille then chartreuse hackle to puff things out. Finish with a few wraps of blue maribou stripped on one side and 3 or 4 strands of blue crinkle flash. Rudy found a raven feather on the cutbank so he stuck it in my vice and I was inspired to add a few quills. This was developed out of desperation to deal with the gin clear low water we had at the time.
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Not to totaly hijack Parker's post or detract from Dana's thread - here are some shots from "the mob at Ross"
first shot is my Meiser MKS 130101112 with friend - note the intruder Moose's ugly in its yap
second is longtime regular, Kenny Wiens, with the best flyrod fish for the week I was in - arround 30lb
third is an evenings prep work with rearming the fly box - note all the "uglies"
fourth is an evenings entertainement in front of our campsite at the top of Ross - Lloyd Murray on the right(he is currantly guiding for Blackwell's)
Final is "last light chat" - Kenny W and one of his group
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A few more shots - steelhead will take a straight "ugly" as witnesses by the attached chromer - the background is crooked as teaching "moose nuts" the finer art of photography is a work in progress
my inflatable and friends - on the way in
last shot is a day trip into the Kimsquit - my pup likes to play figurehead - Lloyd and Don (Cedar hole gang's "jack of all trades") in the lead boat
Lastly - I have lost my length/girth weight chart for chinook - anyone know where I can get another?
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Great shots Gavin, I just missed you this year, looks like you had a good time.
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Parker - I was earlier than usual this year - mid June
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Hijack away speydoc--I'm really glad you posted!

What do you guys know about the history of the Dean chinook fly fishery? My rookie sense of things is we're talking about a very small group of folks here. Even today there seems to be no more than a few dozen hardcore anglers fishing the run, scattered over 3 or 4 weeks.
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Yeah, this is a small group of guys, maybe 25 or 30 over the years, many of them come every year. I'm not sure when they started, but it was probably around the early 80's. Usually in for 2 weeks, but some guys cycle in for part of the time, while others are in all the time. They all very much respect the river and fishery, they have a very well stocked camp but leave no trace when they go. They have it dialed with respect to logistics, getting in and out with a bunch of stuff is not easy or cheap. To anyone who has spent any time on the Dean, it is always worth whatever it takes to get there. It is truly a magical place. I can land a monster or go for days without a fish and come home with the same big smile on my face...well almost as big. Mr P is visiting me on the Cow this weekend and he will know more history, he might be in the top 5 for days fished on the Dean. I will add details if I am out on my numbers.

As this is turning into quite the primer on Dean Chinooks, I thought I would add a bit on my tackle. The Moosehead beer was provided appropriately by Moose's pals.



I fish a CND Thompson Specialist, a Nautilus 12 S reel and either Rio Skagit Flight 700 gr or Airflo 720 gr head with 15 feet of anything from LC-13 to T-17 depending on where I am and river conditions. 25 lb Maxima tippet, of course. The CND is a towering 16"7" 10-11-12 monster developed (in part by Dana) for casting long bellied floating lines on the T. It is very much at home in June on the Dean, however and has no trouble with skagit heads and nasty tips. It is very powerful, from the bottom to the tip and can do all the work for you if you let it. I tend to overpower it every so often, but on the occasions that I get it right it is a very easy and relatively slow stroke that my 60 year old shoulders appreciate after a few thousand casts. The Nautilus has the required Medieval Drag setting and holds a ton of line.
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