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12-10-2000, 03:20 PM

<TABLE border=1 cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=100%><TR><TD nowrap width=100% valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Originator: fishinfool</FONT></TD><TD nowrap valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Date: 12/10/2000 11:20 AM</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFFFFF><TR><TD><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=2><DIV>I have been lurking for some time and am impressed by <BR>the expertise shown on this board. I would love to see a discussion on the proper technique to land a fish on these rods without placing too much stress on the tip. I managed to break the tip off on the first steelhead I caught on the rod. Thanks in advance.<BR><BR>Fishinfool</DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>

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12-11-2000, 07:52 AM

<TABLE border=1 cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=100%><TR><TD nowrap width=100% valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Originator: mjp</FONT></TD><TD nowrap valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Date: 12/11/2000 3:52 AM</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFFFFF><TR><TD><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=2><DIV><DIV>I just started this Spey thing a year and a half ago, so please bear with me. What has worked for me was a great deal of side pressure then lead the fish towards the shallows trying to beach it as best I could. When it gets near the shallows I lay he rod down and grab the leader in one swift(?) motion. It also helps to have a partner who can assist with the landing. Even with a partner I always apply side pressure and lead the fish into shallow water. I am sure others out there are better at this than I, hopefully they will follow suit and respond.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Good luck buddy.</DIV></DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>

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12-12-2000, 09:28 AM

<TABLE border=1 cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=100%><TR><TD nowrap width=100% valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Originator: Fred Evans</FONT></TD><TD nowrap valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Date: 12/12/2000 5:28 AM</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFFFFF><TR><TD><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=2><DIV><DIV>The 'sideways' advise is good as this tips the fish over and wares them out faster. However, breaking the tip on a rod (any rod that hasn't been damaged in a car window, etc.) is pretty tough. What kind of rod and where did the tip break?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If break was at a joint dollars to donuts the two sections weren't properly seated. Really interested in finding out what happened to cause the breakage.</DIV> <DIV>Fred</DIV></DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>

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12-12-2000, 04:58 PM

<TABLE border=1 cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=100%><TR><TD nowrap width=100% valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Originator: penta</FONT></TD><TD nowrap valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Date: 12/12/2000 12:58 PM</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFFFFF><TR><TD><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=2><DIV><DIV>Fred, Sideways pressure on a fish is the same as pressure put on it by a vertically held rod .What mjp was saying was that if you are going to beach a fish ,if you hold the rod sideways it is easier to "lead "it onto the shore .IE the fulcrum of the leader is more in line with where you want the fish  to go.That being said you'll always hold a rod low  if a fish is rocketing downstream (or upstream).</DIV> <DIV>If  you are alone and practicing C&R and you are lucky enough to catch a fish . I would stand in knee deep water and try and grab the leader and either break off the fly or twist it out of the mouth(helps to have barbless hooks).</DIV> <DIV>Good luck </DIV> <DIV>Brian</DIV></DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>

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12-15-2000, 05:57 AM

<TABLE border=1 cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=100%><TR><TD nowrap width=100% valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Originator: fishinfool</FONT></TD><TD nowrap valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Date: 12/15/2000 1:57 AM</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFFFFF><TR><TD><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=2><DIV>Thanks for the advice. What happened was that I led the fish into the shallows and got her quieted down then stripped off enough line to get hold of the leader. Just as I got the leader, the fish took off again so I let go of the leader but it wrapped onto the button on my sleeve and it acted as a fulcrum for the fish to pull against. Pop, the tip section broke about 8 or 9 inches from the tip. Sage replaced it for the shipping fees so no problem there but I don't want that to happen again.</DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>

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12-15-2000, 11:54 PM

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12-21-2000, 02:28 PM

<TABLE border=1 cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=100%><TR><TD nowrap width=100% valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Originator: Rob</FONT></TD><TD nowrap valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Date: 12/21/2000 10:28 AM</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFFFFF><TR><TD><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=2><DIV><P>Ouch!  thats  no  fun.</P> <P>What  i  try  to  do  is lead  the  fish  into  shallow  water  where  the  fish is  forced  onto it's  side. Most  times in my  experience  fish  in this situation will surrender  may  take  2  or 3  tries.  Once a  fish is  there  set the  rod  down  carefully,  no  line  wrapped  around the tip!! grab  the leader  and don't let  go  you  are  committed. unhook the  fish leave it in the  water and move her  to slightly  deeper  sloe  moving  water  point her upstream  and  wait  for it  to regain strength  and  swim  away.</P></DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>

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12-27-2000, 05:34 AM

<TABLE border=1 cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=100%><TR><TD nowrap width=100% valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Originator: bubba</FONT></TD><TD nowrap valign=top><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=1>Date: 12/27/2000 1:34 AM</FONT></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE border=0 cellpadding=10 cellspacing=0 width=100% bgcolor=#FFFFFF><TR><TD><FONT face=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica size=2><DIV>as if learning how to cast wasn't hard enough. then there was how read the water. then it was how to present the fly. then it was how not to jerk the dang thing from the fish's mouth. then it was how to play the fish. the most difficult thing is how to get fish slime on your hands so you can remind yourself of your triumph, just the first time you scored in high school!<BR><BR>i have lost many a fish by trying to apply changes in angled pressure close to shore (i.e. flipping the rod from one horizontal position to the other... while good to work the fish in the current, this motion seems to be pretty good for working the hook out closer in!). i'll generally try to hold the rod tip fairly upright, provided the fish has given up, and allows me to get her/his head sort of out of the water. <BR><BR>once the fish is ready to come in, i'll steer him/her to a relatively shallow area (knee deep or slightly less), upstream of me. i'll get the fish between the bank and me (facing towards the bank), and kneel with my knees apart, forming a "V" right beside the fish, minimizing it's possible escape routes to deeper water. using a fish mitt, i can then tail the fish with one hand, holding the rod away and up, without grasping the leader and risking disaster. once firmly in hand, i can place the rod across my lap to free my other hand to get the fly out.<BR><BR>although inelegant at times, and difficult when the water is really deep, i can generally land a fish brought close enough to see, without having it thrashing on the cold hard ground.ˇ</DIV></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>