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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 03-10-2012, 08:10 PM Thread Starter
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cheap alternative to waddington shanks

had an idea to use a hairpin for a stinger... these are hot roller pins.
they are not the exact ones i was looking for but they are very similar ( the ones i wanted are straight round metal these are woven ) 100 2" pins and 75 3" pins for $8
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This is exactly what I've been using and have no issues with them.
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You mean these....

Cheaper Shanks for Intruders & Stinger Ties:

http://speypages.com/speyclave/showt...ight=hair+pins

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a few out of the pack



simple tools to modify the bend at the end to an 'eye'



careful crimping creates the eye



and then the eye is bent up to the desired angle - any irregularities as seen are in the plastic coating, and not the metal - but be careful not to damage the eye where your leader will be attached.



the completed set



completed set in full view



as these doubled pins still measure 3", they can be clipped or trimmed to the desired length for the shank you want to tie on.




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closer pic as requested

hope this is better second pic got cut off but you get the general idea...
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Sweet , we WILL strike back!!!!!
You take our saddle hackles ?? Well we'll take your hairpins!!!!!!

Great idea guys , heard of people using these . The pics have helped to make it clearer what guys are using. I'll be switching for sure!!!

On a side note and not to hi jack but do people prefer the eye to point up or down!!! I tie mine pointing up however wonder if pointing down would increase the " diving " action???

Again great idea and money saver , I hate cutting expensive hooks.
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Sweet , we WILL strike back!!!!!
You take our saddle hackles ?? Well we'll take your hairpins!!!!!!

Great idea guys , heard of people using these . The pics have helped to make it clearer what guys are using. I'll be switching for sure!!!

On a side note and not to hi jack but do people prefer the eye to point up or down!!! I tie mine pointing up however wonder if pointing down would increase the " diving " action???

Again great idea and money saver , I hate cutting expensive hooks.
I frequently use Loop double salmon hooks with down eye for salmon fishing back home in scandinavia and I really like how they swim. I do think they have a bit of diving to them. However you have to use a guiding knot and these are smaller hooks, so I don't really know how a shank would behave...
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Hit your local NAPA auto parts store and get the biggest 'Cotter Pins/keys' you can get your hands on. These things will sink like a rock. Not an original idea, came from JD Jones.

Everyone needs to PM/E-mail him and get his butt back on the board. A wealth of info .... even if he just uses a Skagit head 12 months of the year.

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Sweet , we WILL strike back!!!!!
You take our saddle hackles ?? Well we'll take your hairpins!!!!!!

Great idea guys , heard of people using these . The pics have helped to make it clearer what guys are using. I'll be switching for sure!!!

On a side note and not to hi jack but do people prefer the eye to point up or down!!! I tie mine pointing up however wonder if pointing down would increase the " diving " action???

Again great idea and money saver , I hate cutting expensive hooks.
hahaah...thats exactly what i told the girl at the counter... but yeah, i tie mine "eye facings up" and if i add a barbell eye it goes on the underside to help it swim upright
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Could anyone post a video or photo-sequence of these hairpins being tied into flies? I'd like to see how the stinger is added, and how the body building goes along with such a configuration.

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Tie what ever you want

http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=40543

This fly has done well for me

http://speypages.com/speyclave/showthread.php?t=44528

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Hit your local NAPA auto parts store and get the biggest 'Cotter Pins/keys' you can get your hands on. These things will sink like a rock.
I've tried cotter pins from the hardware store, and I've found that they won't hold a clinch knot at all. I suppose I could tie them on with a perfection loop or similar knot, but then it seems that's kind of redundant on an intruder-style fly and not easy to tie that knot on those flies, either.

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Cheap alternatives?

I don't think you can beat the way it was done originally in the Intruder using cheap long shank-hooks.
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I have BOTH types of hair pins shown in the pictures. I prefer the ones that Speyducer sent me though the speypages delivery service. The woven ones are fairly soft in comparison
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bringing this oldish thread back to life.....

can you buy these LJ Professional hair pins in the states? i could only find them available in the UK. I found some Amish-made ones in Pennsylvania that are $1.86 per dozen, so that's a hair over $.15 per pin. Cheap compared to shanks still spendy compared to the LJ pros that are $0.01 per pin.
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