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post #16 of 29 (permalink) Old 03-12-2017, 10:40 PM
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Interesting that you would say that. I will definitely heed this advice and thanks! I swear it feels like my left up casting is progressing faster that right up, though I'm trying to balance my time evenly.
My first guess would be that you're using more bottom hand with the left hand top casts. (What I'm supposed to do; and try to do; but seldom actually do...)
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My first guess would be that you're using more bottom hand with the left hand top casts. (What I'm supposed to do; and try to do; but seldom actually do...)
I think you nailed it- that makes perfect sense and seems to be the case

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I would strongly recommend learning both R&L 2handed casting as well as cack handed casting. This is really important with the longer belly lines. Last October on the Clearwater River, Idaho, wind conditions called for downstream river left casting proficiency. Those with good Left handed casting faired better than me.
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Hi my friends. Thank you in advance for any advice on this. I'm right-handed and new to spey casting, I thought maybe I should just learn to cast with my left hand up when needed (because of the wind or obstructions), rather than learning to cast across my body with my right hand up in those situations. Well, it feels good and fluid, and I like it left-handed, but managing and holding the running line feels weird and my reel winds on the left side, etc. I still like to hold the rod in my right hand while the fly is swinging and while mending, etc, so some of the logistics of trading hands seems awkward. Are these the reasons so many guys have learned to cast across their body rather than switching hands? Should I just learn to cast across my body? Basically, if you had it to do all over again, what would you do, because I'm brand new to all this- this is my chance to get it right- it makes no difference at this point since I'm still a noob, and THANKYOU!
yes. keep practicing. keep getting better at LH up. many limited skill 2H casters with some SH experience do well with non-dominate hand on top. i see this all the time. the dominate hand on bottom pulls. this is usually better than dominate hand on top pushing (trying to force a SH cast). all the magic happens when both hands are working together. it's a journey. good luck!

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FWIW. I strip with my right hand even when casting left handed, its easy to switch hands after I'm done stripping, but its a good Idea to fish left handed so you can control the swing, by all means keep casting left handed and cack handed.
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" On archery, I gotta ask: was that shoulder-related, or dominate eye related"

Sorry for the tardy response, but been a bit busy lately. That was due to self starting as a child and no supervision. I was right eye dominant, but left handed. No way for proper alignment with that mix.

Still among all things, I'm really messed up. Baseballs leave the left hand, footballs the right. Bowl lefty and throw darts with the right. Racquet ball right, and frisbie left. Golf on the right. Single handed rods in the right. Spey makes no difference.
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" On archery, I gotta ask: was that shoulder-related, or dominate eye related"

Sorry for the tardy response, but been a bit busy lately. That was due to self starting as a child and no supervision. I was right eye dominant, but left handed. No way for proper alignment with that mix.

Still among all things, I'm really messed up. Baseballs leave the left hand, footballs the right. Bowl lefty and throw darts with the right. Racquet ball right, and frisbie left. Golf on the right. Single handed rods in the right. Spey makes no difference.
I am very similar. I'm a left handed writer, and throw with my right. Similar mix with other actions as you describe above. I have noticed that I seem to automatically do things that require more delicacy with my left, and more strength with my right. Not really ambidextrous - I call it polydextrous. It probably makes it a tiny bit easier for us to learn to do things the opposite way.
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Sounds like more of a blessing than a curse for both of you guys! Wish I could do more with my left hand. I am an industrial sculptor, and am constantly wishing I could do more with my left hand! Thanks for the help on this thread. DS

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I am very similar. I'm a left handed writer, and throw with my right. Similar mix with other actions as you describe above. I have noticed that I seem to automatically do things that require more delicacy with my left, and more strength with my right. Not really ambidextrous - I call it polydextrous. It probably makes it a tiny bit easier for us to learn to do things the opposite way.
Yep, sounds very similar to me, fork in my left hand, but when i want to use a knife on its own, its goes in the left hand, and i must say it was not that difficult to learn to spey cast left handed....single hand, im a leftie........All over the shop.

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Go to spots where you have to fish with the left hand up. Fish fish fish, it will come ,keep going to left hand spots. You'll eventually get it and it will be yours. I did this and found over time that I much preferred fishing left hand up. Line management , learn this as soon as you can , make loops hold your loops stretched under your reel and held in your bottom hand. The faster you learn this the better caster you'll be. Good luck.
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First, start brushing your teeth with your non-dominant hand.
That should weird you out just enough to make the edges of your envelope softer and ease the transition.

I started on grass with a short head; cast, switch grips in mid-air, cast with the left, switch grips again, go cach, switch hands, go cach again opposite side. The idea is to start mirroring muscle memory from one temporal lobe to the other, with your better trained side providing a template for the other.

Worked for me. I still don't get huge distance with the left hand up, but they're good fishing casts. Try this method, it'll wow you.

In short, back/cach or nondom hand up, it's all fun. Learn it all, be PANCASTUAL.
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First, start brushing your teeth with your non-dominant hand.
That should weird you out just enough to make the edges of your envelope softer and ease the transition.

I started on grass with a short head; cast, switch grips in mid-air, cast with the left, switch grips again, go cach, switch hands, go cach again opposite side. The idea is to start mirroring muscle memory from one temporal lobe to the other, with your better trained side providing a template for the other.

Worked for me. I still don't get huge distance with the left hand up, but they're good fishing casts. Try this method, it'll wow you.

In short, back/cach or nondom hand up, it's all fun. Learn it all, be PANCASTUAL.
Left handed casting lessons may be cheaper than the dental repairs though......😱

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Yeah, Maybe a crash helmet and face mask?

haha, life's short right?

I forgot to mention, use yarn fly!
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All probably makes more sense than what I've been doing. For the most part, I've just been alternating every other cast. Right hand up, then left hand up, so neither way becomes my comfort way (probably ever lol!). River right: double spey, right hand up, next cast: snap T, left hand up. Fun and I got lots of looks ha ha
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