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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 05-18-2017, 10:04 AM Thread Starter
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Fergus/Elora

So, a friend and I are heading to the Elora area this weekend for some brown trout fishing, and I've decided that I'm going to spend a majority of my time over the few days trophy hunting for the big 'uns. Not looking for any areas or anything like that, as I've fished it before and have a decent idea, but any advice as to what patterns/leader/line set up have worked in the past would be most appreciated (if any here have even swung flies in this area, as I know dry fly fishing and nymphing is far away most popular). I'm basically thinking about swinging large-ish traditional flies and soft hackles, scandi or rage line, and likely just an intermediate polyleader. Should this be enough, or would anyone suggest using tips, especially in the deeper flows of the Gorge?

Again, any intel would be much appreciated!

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I spent 20 years fishing that area and swinging is not going to be easy. This weekend it will be rammed with people and in the gorge it will, if the weather holds this warm, be full of drunken tubers or kayakers. There are lots of spots where swinging soft hackles are lots of fun but you are not going to find monsters in those sections. Keep in mind that the Grand is a heavily pressured river. The big fish are damn smart and do not come easily to hand. I remember one, that I chased for a summer and only got him to rise twice. Had him on for 30 seconds, and I was very happy with that.
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Strip very big white streamers... Majority of my 20"+ fish were on a simple white wolly bugger back in my SH days...

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fergus/elora

both of the above is very accurate.

This weekend will be a zoo. The fresh stockies were put in this past week so they will be very eager and willing.

Fishing 6x is the norm, anything lighter tends not to get much action, so good luck with swinging. Soft hackle partridge in natural colours or a variation of orange or green bodies should work, swing some caddis pupa (although might be a bit early for that).

Above Fergus is fairly narrow, you might enjoy more swinging from the gorge park and below...

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Thanks for the help, guys. Much appreciated.

I've fished both sections before, from Fergus all the way to below Elora, so I kind of know what to expect. However, I mainly nymphed and used dries every other time I've been there, so wanted to try and consciously target some bigger fish. Single hand or double, it just doesn't seem like a lot of people swing flies up there-stripping streamers, sure, but not much about classic presentations.

Despite it being a holiday, I was hoping that the tube hatch wouldn't be in full swing yet, as it's early in the year still. We have no problem walking from access points, so finding some room likely won't be an issue. While busy, the Tailwater fails in comparison to some of the more popular steelhead rivers around here in terms of crowds and shenanigans, so I'm not too worried about traffic.
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I have spent a lot of time targeting browns on my river systems (delaware branches) with streamers over the years and feel my below comments would hold true regardless of locale

2 things are of paramount importance IMO

1. Water clarity...large trout have excellent vision and regularly eat size 28 midge larvae ...if the water is clear I have found streamer fishing to be a waste of time except in very low light conditions....but if you got some color in the water the fish get stupid and chase and eat very well

2. Water speed..you know that perfect swing water where your fly comes across at that speed that is just right....thats the only water I have ever got them on a true swing...more often than not a lot of stripping , slipping line , two handed salt water style...being the seductress...making your fly look wounded etc...is what it takes to get the bite

I love fishing traditional swing for the browns but just find it very ineffective...IMO steelhead like that presentation a lot more

Good Luck and report back!

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I also am familiar with some of the stretches of the upper Grand. A very good resource on the fishing is 'Fly Fishing The Grand River' by Ian Martin.

'crayfish are a diet staple for many large brown trout…try a crayfish pattern on a slow evening when little is rising'.

Isopods are rated very highly.

Streamers catch most of the largest fish, a black nose dace buctail pattern or a sparsely dressed marabou muddler can (he says) 'be surprisinly effective in even shallow riffle and pocket water.

There is much else of interest in his book.
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the section right behind Ian's house is pretty good for swinning flies...



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I also am familiar with some of the stretches of the upper Grand. A very good resource on the fishing is 'Fly Fishing The Grand River' by Ian Martin.

'crayfish are a diet staple for many large brown trout…try a crayfish pattern on a slow evening when little is rising'.

Isopods are rated very highly.

Streamers catch most of the largest fish, a black nose dace buctail pattern or a sparsely dressed marabou muddler can (he says) 'be surprisinly effective in even shallow riffle and pocket water.

There is much else of interest in his book.

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Thank so for all the info, gents. Looks like some rain tomorrow, so if anything, it'll likely improve any chances of things don't blow out.
We'll. e out there for two days, so I'll probably concentrate on mornings and evenings to swing, and just use my sh for some dry action (hopefully) during the day.
Davidstrout, thanks especially for the tips; never specifically targeted them with the dh rod, so good advice.
I'll definitely report back.
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Don't be afraid to swing some really big stuff. Winter survival was good and some 25-27" hogs have been caught in the last couple weeks. They see the smaller stuff all the time but will move if you make it worth their while.
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Well, didn't end up busting out the big stick, but spent the majority of the time swinging soft hackles on my 4wt sh. Caught dozens of scrappy little guys over the course of two days, a few respectable ones, and lost two that may have been quite decent. River was in great shape, although quite dirty yesterday below Irvine, as was expected. Otherwise, flows and hatch activity seemed quite good from Inversaugh all the way up to Fergus. As always, had a great time, and the getting away from work for a few days is as much the highlight as were the cooperative fish.

Did manage to leave my 4wt reel on the roof of my buddies jeep as we left the Anderson st parking lot, at the end of our day yesterday,but I'm more disappointed in the lost line (was a cortland sylk) than the reel itself. Still kinda bummed about it, and will need to source an old click pawl (and line) now for the rest of the trout season.

Thanks all who chimed in
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Did you drop a line to Rob at the fly shop. If the reel turns up he may hear of it. I lost a reel like that years ago and I am still miffed about it.

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Hey Brayden,

Ya, I posted it on the grand river Facebook page, and I think he's aware of it. Hope it turns up, but I won't shed too many tears if it doesn't. Now, had it been my Bougle spey reel...
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You have to be careful of those reels. I have had several roll out of the trunk when packing. My own fault of course but still something I try and watch for.
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