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Poly floating leader, why?

Why would one use a floating poly leader instead of mono? Which Airflo- 10' Steelhead/Salmon or the "Spey" ?

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I have used them

and I agree
A Mono leader at the end of a well designed tapered fly line is perfect

If the head has no taper then a poly can add some taper to the front

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like above, if you are using light spey heads, skagit etc, the light poly 10ft salmon work well, i personally think they provide better stick than mono when using light skagit heads (lets say under 300gr) and one would use it for skateing dries or even just dry fly on a switch, i used a salmon poly on my 4wt switch with a 10ft tapered mono on the front of it for a really light delivery, worked well with small dries and worked a treat on bigger foam back dries upto size 4

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They stick a little more...add 20' to your cast, allow for easier weak-hand up casting, peform a Wombat flawless victory, and will make you pankcakes. But mostly they just stick more.

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easier weak-hand up casting, peform a Wombat flawless victory, and will make you pankcakes.
I think I just witnessed the creation of Spey Jive.
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are those the old fashioned buckwheat hotcakes?? If so, I may just have to buy one!!!!
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are those the old fashioned buckwheat hotcakes?? If so, I may just have to buy one!!!!
mmmmmm buckwheat pancakes . . . haven't had any in a dog's age, worse I can't find any . . .

about the post -- never understood why either -- waiting for more replies.

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For me they seem to smooth out the turnover on the more blunt taper scandis, turnover better into the wind, etc. I usually try both when testing a line. I do agree that I don't see a point to them on lines with longer, finer front tapers.

Ill add that for me polys work best when you incorporate their grain weight into that of your system...so for instance if I'm using a 520 gr scandi head with a mono leader, with a 60 gr poly I like to drop down to a 460 ish grain head...

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Real nice for big skaters.. straightn''''''''''''s nice!! And in the wind Nice to have!
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I like the poly leaders because they do not kink like mono does. If you have a rod set up with a dry on it for an extended period of time, and it has a mono leader, it tends to kink when not in use.(unless you are really anal and reel the fly into the tip top every time) The poly leaders straighten out very easily and remain kink free even if you have the rod strung for days.
The down side is the leaders tend to delaminate at the end after landing a bunch of fish on them. In my experience after 10 - 15 fish the inner core starts to seperate from the outer core and you will need to cut the leader back a bit.
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I'm still thinking about those pancakes. . . . mmmm.....

Good info so far.
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The only use I have found for them is to lengthen my cut off scandi head, converting from a skangit to a too heavy scandi. And since I have to change tips to get that far, I'd just as soon change out the entire head to a much lighter, full floating scandi with a long tapered mono leader.

The mono leader allows me to fish the surface down to a moderate depth. Plus, should I decide to throw a couple of half hitches on the fly, I just do and it works. Don't try that on a poly leader!

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I dig the polyleader's ability to turn over big, wind resistant foam skaters at distance. I fish the 14's a lot w/ 4' of tippet, and they seem to turn a bulky fly better, and with less casting effort than straight mono. They also take and hold floatants better, allowing for some high-ridin' line in the bumpy water.
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I dig the polyleader's ability to turn over big, wind resistant foam skaters at distance. I fish the 14's a lot w/ 4' of tippet, and they seem to turn a bulky fly better, and with less casting effort than straight mono.
I'm thinking about using one of those 14ft. floating polyleaders in front of my Airflo Compact Skagit for skating big flies. Since the compact skagit has a 6ft. front taper adding a 14ft. floating polyleader would eliminate the need of getting a floating MOW tip.

Does this sound logical??
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Fish Tech - I tried something similar and had no real success. It took me using the tips from my WCII on the end of my Skagit Flight Head, with a leader/tippet at the end of the tip, to get things dialed in. Granted, I'm more of an underhand caster than anything else, but I could launch the Skagit line a long way using an airborne anchor (Single Spey and Snake Roll) with the afore-mentioned set-up. This was with a VT2 9144-4, Skagit 625, and tips from my 9/10/11 WCII. I used a 14' intermediate Poly with 6' of 12-lb. mono tippet. Was casting 3" double bunny tubes. Just using the Skagit head and Poly leader with tippet would result in a blown anchor every time. This was not true Skagit casting, of course, but even trying to do that didn't yield any good casts (for me). Your experience may vary.
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