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Danielsson Antireverse

Hi guys... just whant to tell you that Danielsson Innovation of Sweden has don it agian! They launch a new reel this spring.... its an antireverse with plenty of space for speylines! Check out thier website!

Im thinking of getting one...

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Here is the link:

http://www.danielsson-flyreels.se/do...3-01%20eng.pdf

Looks as the capacity of the Anti-reverse 8-13 reel, 10.5 oz , is in between the HD 9-13 and 11-14.

The HD9-13 takes 8/9 MidSpey and ca. 170 yards of #30 Dacron, so the new
anti-reverse 8-13 should take extra 100 yards of #30 Dacron.

The biggest reels are the ultimate salt water machine, 16 oz!!! and good for 18' spey rod

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Edit: Actually the capacity if Anti-reverse 8-13 is very closed to HD 11-14 because the numbers for the new reels are in meters ( 1m=1.1 yard)
and for the smallest reels capacity should be approximatly 8/9 MidSpey + 100 yards of #30.
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Those look like they'd work great for grinding coffee, too! Seriously, I just sent an e-mail to Loop asking if they will bring back the sz. 4 original, sorry to hear they won't. But they look to have a great reel in that new AR, thanks for the information.
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$1000.00 !

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I just sent an e-mail to Loop asking if they will bring back the sz. 4 original, sorry to hear they won't. But they look to have a great reel in that new AR, thanks for the information.

The AR as well as LW, HD etc. made by Danielsson AB not Loop. The reels made by Danielsson were distributed by Loop until 2004 when two companies have ended their alliance. If you want sz.4 original you have to write to Danielsson. They still make No.3

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I don't know how much they will ask for AR in US , but based on the price of HD reel in korona and USD, the 7000 korona for 8-13 translate to ca. $700

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I don't know how much they will ask for AR in US , but based on the price of HD reel in korona and USD, the 7000 korona for 8-13 translate to ca. $700

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The press release quotes 7500 Swedish Krona for the 8thirteen, and using xe.com convertor, this is UK£551.38, and US$1064.34, and CA$1254.02.

??Is the 7500 Swedish Krona quoted for the European market?? and seperate prices for the North American market??

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The EU website quotes 4140 Swedish Krona for HD 11-14 and in US it costs

$ 440, so 7500 would translate to well, $ 797

7500 includes VAT( 19%) N/A in US.
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The EU website quotes 4140 Swedish Krona for HD 11-14 and in US it costs

$ 440, so 7500 would translate to well, $ 797

7500 includes VAT( 19%) N/A in US.
No purchase tax in US or Canada?

Whatever, seems that the North American market gets a sweeter deal than over here in Europe

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When your order form Ron there is no sales tax

Here is US college cost ( board and room + tuition) is anywhere between $ 15,000 to 35,000/ year . I believe in Europe it cost a very small fraction of that….
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Could be a great reel for Kings and Tarpon.



Pressrelease from Danielsson Innovation AB.
Smedjebacken March-01, 2007


"Whereas in traditional anti-reverse reel sys-
tems cranking power never exceeds braking power, Control
reels incorporate a unique power converter that automatically
increases resistance (drag) when you crank the handle, and
reduces drag when you let the handle go"


Danielsson Innovation AB has developed a new reel series
called Control, which will revolutionize medium-to-heavy
fly fishing. Thanks to a number of innovations, Control reels
significantly improve user-friendliness, reliability, and the
odds of successfully playing and landing big, powerful game
fish.
Explanation:
At first glance, Control reels appear to function like typical
anti-reverse fly reels: when fish run the drag system lets out
line without the reel handle turning. There the similarity
ends, however. Whereas in traditional anti-reverse reel sys-
tems cranking power never exceeds braking power, Control
reels incorporate a unique power converter that automatically
increases resistance (drag) when you crank the handle, and
reduces drag when you let the handle go. By pairing maxi-
mum cranking power with the ability to immediately reduce
tension when fish jump or make sudden, lunging runs, inci-
dents of broken tippets, shattered rods and bent hooks can
be minimized – chances of landing trophy tarpon, sailfish or
salmon maximized.
How it works:
The multiple disc clutch type brake is developed from our
earlier systems, and has proven to be very reliable under harsh
conditions. The main drag knob and a fine-tuning knob allow
for extremely precise drag settings. The big news, however, is
the fighting brake, which automatically significantly increases
the drag setting as soon as the handle is cranked a mere 1.5
centimeters; stop forcing the handle and the brake immedi-
ately reverts to the original drag-knob setting. Because of this
engineering breakthrough, anglers no longer have to let go of
the handle when fighting fish, providing hitherto unattainable
levels of control.
Example:
When fishing for Tarpon it is important to brake hard during
the run. After the run he will be airborne, and under these high
jumps there is a high risk that he will cut the leader. A Tarpon
fisherman tries to prevent this by leaning forward, giving him
some slack line. With this movement he gets another 1.5meters
less line tension, but the fish might be 250meters away so the
effect is minimal. If you instead could rapidly decrease the
brake, much of the tension would go away.
This is exactly what our reel does: when the Tarpon jumps,
you stop forcing the handle and much of the tension goes away.
Your chances to land that dream fish just went sky high.
The power converter also has a built-in safety guard that
prevents the reel from getting overloaded. Too many reels break
under extreme stress – in other words, at the exact moment
anglers rely on them the most. With Danielsson’s new Control
reel, we can’t guarantee you won’t lose the occasional big one;
but we can guarantee it won’t be because of reel failure.
Other features:
- Control reels afford the unique benefit of having the handle
on the frame side. This prevents the risk of finger injuries from
rotating spools: remember, some species can run at speeds up
to 100km/h.
- Control reels are waterproof to 100 meters, another important
feature of reliability. By placing the handle on the frame side
we only need two sealant rings, minimizing idle friction.
- The frame-side handle also makes changing spools a breeze,
as opposed to the complicated, time consuming chore typical
of other anti-reverse reels.
- The overall mechanical feeling is smooth and tight; just
cranking the reel is highly addictive.
Twenty-five years ago we began making large fly reels
capable of tackling some of the world’s most explosive game
fish. With Control, we now raise the bar yet again, changing
the way large reels are designed and manufactured, and more
importantly, how they work to make fly fishing more user-
friendly, reliable, and effective.
Summary features.
• New user friendly anti-reverse, with built in fighting brake
through handle
• Totally Waterproof
• Saltwater resistant
• Heat resistant brake
• Clicker sound in outgoing direction
• Easy spool change
• Retrieving direction change by following manual
• Min-max setting on drag knob within one turn
• Handle on frame side, securely away from the spool
• All mechanical parts well balanced against each other, no
weak links.
New revolutionizing reel series from Danielsson
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Maybe just me but while I can see where this would be the proverbial cat's meow for big game and salt water uses, I can't see the utility of this for a double-handed rod. Other than I guess it would be an eye catcher.

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reels incorporate a unique power converter that automatically
increases resistance (drag) when you crank the handle, and
reduces drag when you let the handle go.
Wow, I've got a number of 80+ year old Perfects that do this same thing. When I'm cranking the handle, the drag increases. When I let go of the handle, the drag goes away. Nothing revolutionary there.

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- Control reels afford the unique benefit of having the handle
on the frame side. This prevents the risk of finger injuries from
rotating spools: remember, some species can run at speeds up
to 100km/h.
Yep, my Perfects have that covered.

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Control reels are waterproof to 100 meters, another important
feature of reliability.
Now you might have me there. I think my Perfects can handle this spec too but I personally have never tried them when I was any deeper that 30 meters.

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the reason I did focus on 8-13 b/c it is the only reel applicable to spey rods, with the capacity of HD 11-14 and 10.5 oz weight.
The rest, as I indicated earlier, is for salt water big game

Wow, I've got a number of 80+ year old Perfects that do this same thing

Does the Perfect have sealed drag or you have to wash it with fresh water after each salt water trip?, is it as reliable ( look for similar, well known reliability of AR as HD or LW).
If the answer in Yes, Why I don't see 80+ year old Perfect or similar reel with all this great features your posted in production ?
Anyway for steelhead fishing all that great features are really not necessary anyway
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Some truth to that with the current exchange rates.

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No purchase tax in US or Canada?

Whatever, seems that the North American market gets a sweeter deal than over here in Europe

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LOTS of UK dollars going into the US market now for rods, reels, lines, etc., and etc. Two basic reasons: the 17'ish per cent "VAT" tax that gets added on to everything 'over there,' and the pound being (approx.) worth $1.86 USD.

Even with the shipping charges (even if the buyer 'gets caught' and has to pay the VAT) the 'same' bit of kit could cost $100-$300 less "here vs. there." Major topic of conversation on several UK based fly fishing boards.

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Danielsson's Capacity table

I have attached a pdf file with spool capacity for all Danielsson reels, including
capacity in ml ( ml (1 in3 = 16.4 ml) .
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